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Post subject: Re: Incident with Cuddles  Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:56 am |
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Thank you, Peaches mom. I took on me much more than I can handle alone and this is a mistake. Now I will have guilt how little I do for the bunnies and I guess it will mean even less time spent with the child. thanks Carolyn. I found another egg in the kitchen, a normal egg, but I don't know how long it has been there. The location isn't the one where you look too often. I have a problem feeding her, because if I hand feed her something, other birds immediately come to join, and she doesn't like a big company right now. In the cage I don't know how to provide a variety of food, it would be just seed and pellet bowl and water, and again, other birds come and start eating with her most of the time so she leaves. And because she is not coming to the table to eat, other birds don't land on the table as well. Nobody eats veggies and such...
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Post subject: Re: Incident with Cuddles  Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:05 am |
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Do you have any guesses WHY she is not feeling well? I wonder if I should take her to another vet, who can do a blood work and such... it's not that I have extra money, I already took her to the vet, but I can't understand why she is not feeling well so long.
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Post subject: Re: Incident with Cuddles  Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:49 pm |
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I think we finally have an improvement. I saw that she has interest in eating and got some of the hunger back. She was even seen in the cabinet today which means she is playing again (ok, don't get started on what kind of play it is, I know it). Again, she for some reasons can't stand when other birds come to eat with her most of the time. I am not sure if she would be happier locked in the cage. I just don't know. I try to provide her a personal bowl when I see that she wants to eat. She even ate some hand fed veggies today and a bit of couscous with eggs. But most desirable are sweet potato chips and Pretty Bird pellets. Bella always flies to my hand that holds whatever I feed to Cuddles. That doesn't help Cuddles but is adorable of Bella. She was also very interested when I held Cuddles wrapped in a towel and fed formula. I talked to people in the Morning Bird for half hour (imagine that!). They advertized all their products to me (that is fine). I still think that Cuddles' digestion isn't great, so it would be useful to test her. Is it for sure she doesn't have a bad bacteria? remember she had diarrhea not so long ago? What if she needs probiotics? Maybe she has worms? They mentioned that dropping have to be cultured... I just don't know which vet would do all the necessary tests for me (and how much it's going to cost...) I ordered Calcium. Wasn't sure which one to get - powder or liquid. Ordered liquid. I gave her human Calcium, but I am not sure if she digests it. A drop goes in her beak but not her throat, and then she always bite the towel so that Calcium may end up on the towel. Is SPINACH OK or should be avoided?
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Post subject: Re: Incident with Cuddles  Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:21 pm |
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it was too early to say she improved. Not eating again today Don;t know how it happened but yesterday I fell asleep in the basement and didn't know that for some reasons heater was turned off. At 6am it was 69F in the house. Not good for Cuddles  Usually it feels much colder in the basement so I don't know why I didn't feel it was getting cold. Must had been really tired. What probiotic could you recommend?
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Post subject: Re: Incident with Cuddles  Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:52 pm |
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do antibiotics mess up their intestinal flora really bad? Would you guys give antibiotics when necessity is not confirmed?
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Post subject: Re: Incident with Cuddles  Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:27 pm |
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As a nurse, I sorta have a strong opinion regarding antibiotics in that they should only be used when you have an actual known infection. Antibiotics are not risk free and then there's the whole breeding microbes that are immune to antibiotics thing. So, I wouldn't push for antibiotics unless your vet finds an actual infection or strongly suspects an infection.
I, personally, am all about pro-biotics. I eat a lot of yogurt and suggest it strongly for people who are taking antibiotics. In fact, when taking antibiotics, I suggest eating a good active culture yogurt at least three times a day, just as you would a medication, just as you would the antibiotic, to keep a constant bombardment of the good bugs hitting your GI system as the antibiotic is keeping a constant bombardment of killing off everything it can in your body.
I'm not sure if yogurt is OK for birds, I've read it as an ingredient in some bird bread recipes and what not but since they're not mammals, I'm not sure if the dairy is OK. I know there is a probiotic made specifically for birds online, it comes in a powder form. I bought some from avitec.com because at the time, I was just adding it to their food as a supplement but now that I've run out and am not as entranced with buying new stuff for my birdies as I was when they were new, and given that mine are currently (knock on wood) healthy, I won't get any more unless I need it. Since my birdies haven't been ill, nor on antibiotics, I can't speak to it's efficacy just that it didn't harm my birds and they didn't seem to mind it in their water or sprinkled on their food.
Honestly though, before I'd give Cuddles anything more (besides the calcium which it sounds like she really needs? and the heat and extra tender, loving care, etc), I think another talk to the vet is needed. Is there not another avian vet closer to your home? Four hours is rough.
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