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 Post subject: Re: I'm getting really frustrated...
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:27 pm 
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Yay birdies inside! I'd say,from this to having your parents to agree with keeping a few permanently in your room, the step is small :)
If you manage to keep clean with no smells or dust lingering I am sure they will agree.
Next winter they will sit on your books and help you study :D

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 Post subject: Re: I'm getting really frustrated...
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:52 pm 
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I could keep the cage clean, I just can't keep it dust free! This is the only problem we have.

My mom barely said yes, she just said it until they are weened but after they are going back. There are no seeds on the floor because I have a tidy seed saver dish that I use. But the dust particles is impossible to clean without a true hepa.

My mom just doesn't want it. (Both the birds and the air purifier)

But at least I can have them until then :)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:12 pm 
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To give the long nights treatment to the whole aviary, you'd need to be able to cover the aviary with something thick enough to make it seem as dark as night when it was actually daylight. This probably wouldn't be easy. Harbor Freight has super cheap tarps that could probably be used - you might have to tie several of them together to get a big enough cover. But they aren't particularly light resistant and you'd need about 4 layers to get the amount of darkness you want.

An alternative would be to have a small sleep cage that you carry into the aviary at night, put the birds inside, and cover that. This would obviously be a lot easier to cover, but if some of the birds aren't tame it might be hard to round them up.

As long as the days keep getting longer, hormone reduction will only work temporarily. If you use the long nights treatment to get their hormone levels down then let them go back to the natural daylight schedule, their hormone levels will go right back up again. But once the days start getting shorter, nature is on your side and their hormone levels will decrease naturally.

Hormone control is a nuisance but it's the price you pay for keeping male and female cockatiels together. I spend half the year playing hormone police.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:01 am 
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Any news about Bio?



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:51 am 
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Thank you for the answer.

Hannah, no news on Bio.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm getting really frustrated...
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I'm sorry.......don't lose hope...I haven't. I still believe you'll get him back.



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:21 pm 
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Thank god I made this thread. I am feeling even worse and I am re-reading the comments.

My mom really wants to get the birds out. She said there is more bad than good. I just don't know what I should like as a hobby. Nothing in the world seems to interest me besides for my birds. My mom said I should start looking for a new hobby.

I feel terrible. Don't worry everyone. I am not forcing you to make posts on this forum . I'm just going to let out my emotions and you can simply ignore it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:31 pm 
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Please don't feel like this! You shouldn't! I don't care and I'm sure every one else feels the same, I want you to spill your emotions! If you don't let them out, you'll explode! If you ever want to pm me, please feel free to!



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:55 pm 
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Haimovfids wrote:
My mom really wants to get the birds out. She said there is more bad than good. I just don't know what I should like as a hobby. Nothing in the world seems to interest me besides for my birds. My mom said I should start looking for a new hobby.


Why? She can't change you. Only you can do that and you love your birds and what can you do? Stop loving? Stop your passion? No, you can't do that. When you truly find what you love, you never let it go. My mother is critical of me and my interests too. So please believe me, I know what it's like. She also can have a temper, and in all honestly she has made me cry before because of the way I am. Eventually, she regrets becoming mad and really sits and thinks about why I am not the way she wants me to be. I'm artistic, not athletic. I have anxiety, not perfect mental health. I like birds, not boys. I am not a typical child and sometimes other people don't see eye to eye with you. But in reality, how are their interests any more normal than yours? Why is liking football more acceptable than liking birds? You see a bunch of sweaty guys with bad attitudes throw a ball across a field over and over again? That's entertaining? That's how I see football. Other people see it differently. And I know you don't like sports either, so I'm assuming you see it the same way. And some gritty football fanatics probably see bird keeping as a waste of time, a bird is a bird. You hear it sing and give it seeds, then it dies. You see things the way you see things, and you're not alone. I see my birds as companions, intellectual, understated companions. I see them they way I consider myself. That's why I like them. You are your own individual and you love birds. I love birds. Everybody on this forum loves birds. That shouldn't make you feel bad. Embrace it. It makes you like nobody else. There are too many drones in this world. We need something fresh like you. After all, we need you in the lab working on new genetics for birds.



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We don't choose what we like or don't like, or who we love or don't love. We just do it because that's who we are and we're built to feel that way. Your mother doesn't like birds so she doesn't understand the way you feel about them. But I think you can make her understand that even though there have been a lot of difficult times lately, they still bring you more joy than pain and your life will be poorer if she makes you give them up.



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