Since I am looking into breeding and we are 2015 I was hoping somebody here knows of a good software (preferably freeware) package to keep track of your birds / pairs and possibly the eggs - chicks.

So far I this is what I came up with

Bird Breeder Pro
I don't like the layout of this one. And I'm confused if it's freeware or a demo I have. I added my budgies to give it a go, but not all eggs that I 'hatch' and add a new bird to show up in the genetic line...

ZooEasy
I like this one a lot, even though it looks like it's made for breeding almost anything. I downloaded a demo and it's easy to use, but... It's not freeware...

Birds Evolution Pro
I can't get this one to work... It sends me a registration key, but in the mail itself I don't find anything that remotely looks like a product key or activation key... I tried some variations on what is sent in between brackets [XX] but with no succes.

So I'm hoping there is a sollution out there that I haven't found yet.
As it stands I'm using Excel, but I'm not that much of an excelsheetlover...

I just use Excel, it serves my needs well enough since I only have three breeding pairs.

For Birds Evolution Pro, the "first launch" section at http://www.birdsevolutionpro.com/Getting-Started.aspx has some information in a yellow-green box called Specific Cases that talks about things that can make the registration process fail, and they also tell you to send them an email if you can't make it work. Apparently their email address is info@birdsevolutionpro.com They're supposed to have a forum and a ticket system for solving problems, but apparently these things have been under construction since 2010.

Yeah, I spotted that section and sent an email, but no response as of yet...so ...Hands in hair pose...

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I payed for the zooeasy one.

I'm now entering all my birds but I have to admit, I'm at a loss where the colors for cockatiels are concerned...

I'm sure of the normal grey's Statler, Waldorf, Ed and Shenzy.
I also am sure that Pumba and Timon are whiteface and Banzai, Marina and Mrs Tiggy are whiteface too.
I think Babbel and Iago are Pearl.

I'm at a loss where The Swedish chef and Janice are concerned. I have put The swedish chef down as a Cinamon-Pearl-Whiteface mutation and Janice as a Cinamon-Pearl.

After that I just gave up. I had the option to put in split colors. I know Pumba and Babbel are parents to Ed, Banzai and Shenzy. So Shenzy should be split to something. I was thinking Pearl, from Babbel, but then started thinking if she got the normal grey from her mom, which is a dominant gene she would look like a normal grey... All this confused me so much I just didn't put in any split colors and even made me doubt I put all the colors in right to begin with...

I might try again later but I'm at a loss here right now
I started reading all the explanations again but this only added to my confusion. I must be the most stupid man on earth

If any of this comes natural to you guys (Tielfan?) and you would care to help me out (again) I would appreciate that very much! Thx

If you can post some pictures here with the names and relationships we can help sort it out. But it helps to have visuals.

No problem at all!



Statler and Waldorf:


Ed on the right (with babbel iago and pumba):


Shenzy:



Pumba:


Timon:


Banzai:


Marina:


Mrs Tiggy:



Babbel:


Iago:




The Swedish Chef before he molted:


Janice:


As far as relations go; Pumba and Babel are parents to 3 of them: Ed, Banzai and Shenzy.
So:
Parents:


Children: see above pictures, I don't have them all in one :/

Pumba=whiteface split pearl. We know he has the pearl gene because you got some pearl babies, and we know he isn't visual pearl because he has a non-pearl daughter.

Babbel=pearl split whiteface. Both parents have to have the whiteface gene to get visual whiteface babies, and you got one from this pair.

Ed=pearl split whiteface. All the babies of a whiteface parent will get the gene from that parent, and dad is whiteface.
Shenzy=normal grey split whiteface
Banzai=whiteface

You can double check by inputting the parent's information here to see if the results match the actual babies: http://www.kirstenmunson.com/cockatiels/blue.html

Statler and Waldorf=normal grey
Iago=pearl. Possibly cinnamon? it's hard to tell but her grey coloring looks kind of pale.
Marina=whiteface
Mrs. Tiggy=whiteface
Timon = whiteface cinnamon pied
Swedish chef=pearl. His cheek spot color is interesting, I wonder if he might be yellow cheek or pastelface.
Janice=whiteface pearl. Her coloring looks too dark for cinnamon in this picture.

Ed is pearl?? Ah the age just moltes the pearls away then... Didn't think about that!

Suppose the Swedish chef has got the yellow cheek or pastelface... What do I have to pair him up with to make it visible in the chicks?

I did have my doubts about Timon because he is so light in colouring.

Thx a gazillion! I hope to get this right myself one day... I'll have to practice to get things right. I for one would love a quiz about genetics! If you feel up to it Tielfan you could make a poll-question. Give us a picture of a tiel and make us choose what color he/she is or even the sex of the bird based on your input of the genetic code of the parents. Just a thought, don't want to push you into anything you don't feel like doing!

Thx again for the help!

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It's possible that Ed is just split to pearl with very heavy ghost pearling. But my guess is that he's visual pearl and most of it has faded. If you breed him, you'll be able to figure out which one it is. If he's visual pearl then all his daughters will also be visual pearl. If he's split pearl then only some of the daughters (about half) will be visual pearl.

If it turns out that Ed is only split to pearl then it's possible that his father is not split to pearl after all. Ed definitely got the gene from his mother because a pearl hen gives the pearl gene to all of her sons but not to any of her daughters. If you keep on breeding Pumba and Babel you'll find out the answer soon enough. If Pumba is split to pearl you'll have some pearl babies. If he's not split to pearl you'll never get any pearl babies. It's not enough to have a pearl mother, it's absolutely required for the father to have the pearl gene in order to get pearl chicks.

If the Swedish Chef is pastelface, then pairing him with a whiteface hen will give you some pastelface babies. The two genes work together in a complicated way: http://www.littlefeatheredbuddies.com/i ... lelic.html

If he's yellowcheek it will depend on which type of YC it is since there are two different YC mutations. One is dominant yellow cheek, and if he's got that one he can have yellow cheek babies of both sexes no matter what color his mate is. The other type is sex-linked yellow cheek (SLYC), and if he's got that one he can have SLYC daughters no matter what color his mate is. A SLYC hen would be required to get SLYC sons.

The 'no matter what color his mate is' part confuses me most. I thought that normal grey was predominant over everything, so if I would put a normal grey hen with him I'd get all normal grey looking tiels split to whatever he passes on...