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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
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I have seen lots of Lutino tiels with dark eyes and it looks like you have one yourself in your signature.Teela



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OK I need to clarify. BABY lutinos have bright red eyes. The color gets darker in older birds. The dark colors in cockatiels (including the grey feathers and the dark eyes) are caused by a pigment called melanin. The lutino gene doesn't completely get rid of the melanin but it messes it up so badly that you usually can't see it. But lutinos apparently get more melanin in the eye as they get older so their eyes look darker. It's usually a dark red color but it looks like ordinary dark eyes under most lighting conditions.

When a lutino has other mutations or splits to other mutations, it can develop some really weird eye colors when it gets older. Nobody knows the reason for this. All my lutinos actually have grey/blue eyes but I can only see it when they're in sunlight. When they're indoors it just looks like they have dark eyes. Here's a collage by Susanne Russo on lutino eye color:

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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
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Rocko and Loki both have brown eyes.It looks like Mims has bright red eyes.



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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
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That picture was taken when she was a baby, and Snowy is also a baby picture. Their eyes look darker now. Teela had bright red eyes when she was a baby, but the signature picture was taken when she was older.



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That picture was taken when she was a baby, and Snowy is also a baby picture. Their eyes are darker now. Teela had bright red eyes when she was a baby, but the signature picture was taken when she was older.

Oh well that explains it lol.Since im keeping one of the babies would I be better to pick one and hand feed it or leave it with all the rest and still get tame babies as I will be socialising them all and interacting with them to keep them tame.



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I like to go for co-parenting, which is in between those two options. You leave the chicks with the parents most of the time but "borrow" them once a twice a day for handfeeding. You can socialize them just by handling them, but it works faster if you do some handfeeding too. The first time a cockatiel baby opens its eyes, it realizes that you are NOT its father or mother and it HATES you for that. There's a lot of "go away and leave me alone" screeching in the beginning. Like this:

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Really I never knew that how do they know your not their parent? I think ill go with Co Parenting lol and ill have to get hand rearing formula anyway in case the baby gets abandoned or a few of them.Do you have any links on how to hand rear? My mam knows how to but I would like to be the one to do it.



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I like to go for co-parenting, which is in between those two options. You leave the chicks with the parents most of the time but "borrow" them once a twice a day for handfeeding. You can socialize them just by handling them, but it works faster if you do some handfeeding too. The first time a cockatiel baby opens its eyes, it realizes that you are NOT its father or mother and it HATES you for that. There's a lot of "go away and leave me alone" screeching in the beginning. Like this:

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And I thought their feed me noise was bad. :lol: They sound like bloodthirsty aliens!

And well, I'm pretty sure the fact that you don't look like a bird would give away their first clue. If by any chance you hand feed, and they see you before they see their bird parents, and get fed by you before the bird parents, then they might think of you as the dad.

Kinda think of it... DO we have an article here on how to hand rear? I was looking on the main website, but I can't seem to find one.
Well, there are a lot of guides and video tutorials online that you can find.



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Yes, the fact that you don't look like a cockatiel is apparently what gives it away. :rotflmao100: They've never actually seen a cockatiel before, but somehow they still know that you aren't one. I find that it's helpful to handle the babies every day before their eyes open. It seems to help them get used to your presence so they don't go quite as insane when their eyes open.

Shortly before that video I had SIX of them screaming at me like that, but the three youngest ones got tired and gave up on it by the time I got the camera.

I don't have an article on handfeeding because I don't think it's something that can really be learned by reading. The best way to learn is to have someone with experience teach you, so ask your mother to show you how it's done, and have her sit with you the first few times you do it so she can help you improve your technique. You can also google for handfeeding videos on youtube in addition to having your mother teach you. This will help you see other techniques and get more helpful hints.



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 Post subject: Re: Im Breeding soon
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When it's the chick's first time being handfed, the baby doesn't have any idea what you're trying to do so it doesn't cooperate with you. This makes it harder for you when it's your first time too. It will be easier if you let your mother do the first few feedings to train the chicks, and then you can take over. But it's also understandable if you want to be the very first one. Just know that it's going to be a challenge, and be patient with the baby and with yourself.



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