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 Post subject: Wikipedia Cockatiel page
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:23 am 
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I was convinced that I already read that page three years ago when I first got Bubu, after all Wikipedia is one of my most visited websites... but no! I went a few days ago, to check egg sizes, and I was amazed by the mutations list. There are some names I never heard of before, like bronzefallow, edged dilute and something called Ino :?
Some names I didn't recognise are just aka of more common names, but still these three above I had never heard before.
And there is an adorable picture of a sleeping Whiteface... a bit of a Beaker lookalike minus the ferny crest :D
Some of the information I didn't agree with, but that often happens with Wikipedia, I think it's part of its success, it leaves you wondering and push you to research more.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:52 am 
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The mutations list appears at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatiel_colour_genetics

Here's the list from the website with my notations in bold:


ADMpied (aka Recessivepied aka Harlequin) Also called pied

Ashenfallow (ika Recessive Silver)called palefallow in Europe

Bronzefallow (cka Brownfallow) called fallow in the US

Cinnamon no explanation needed here lol

Dilute (ika Pastel Silver) one of several mutations found only in Australia

Dominant silver (aka Ashen Dilute) avian geneticistTerry Martin calls this Dominant Edged. Most people call it Dominant Silver

Edged dilute (ika Spangled ika spangled silver) one of several mutations found only in Australia

Faded one of several mutations found only in Australia. Also called West Coast Silver

SL Ino sex-linked lutino, usually just called lutino. This is the common lutino mutation

Albino aka whiteface lutino. Shouldn't be here, it's a combination of mutations elsewhere on the list not a separate mutation all by itself

NSLino (Recessive Ino) non-sex-linked lutino. It's a different variation of the bronze fallow gene that produces a lutino-looking bird. It was very rare and only available in Europe, and no one seems to know if it actually exists any more

Opaline (cka Pearled) we all know what pearls are!

Palefaced (ika Pastelfaced) pastelface is a different variation of the whiteface gene. It's becoming more common, and I might actually get one of them from a local breeder.

Platinum (ika Pallid) one of several mutations found only in Australia. It's a different variation of the lutino gene

Whitefaced (same gene as genuine Blue mutation in typical Parrot and Parakeet species) WF is a genuine Blue mutation. But you only get visual blue coloring if the bird was green to start out with. This gene removes the yellow from the bird.

Dominant and Sex-Linked Yellowcheeked The results are fairly similar but these are two totally different mutations. They shouldn't lump them together like this.

Yellow-suffused (ika Emerald, or Olive) Terry Martin objects to the name Yellow-suffused. This mutation causes a loss of melanin not an increase in yellow. He also says the American Emerald is not quite the same as the Australian Olive.

If anyone wants to know how the "different variation of the same gene" situation works, check out our article on allelic mutations: http://www.littlefeatheredbuddies.com/i ... lelic.html



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:20 am 
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So basically if we could get a green tiel we would get a blue one too! This is the stuff dreams are made of...
On one side I would love to see one, on the other hand cockatiels' colours are so elegant and muted, maybe it would be a shame if brighter colours were introduced.

Is it possible to find a photo of a Recessive Ino? I am checking the internet with no results for cockatiels.

Is i possible to obtain a paleface lutino? They must be absolutely stunning.

The picture of Susanne's cinnamon fallow looks very similar to my Keith. He was found on a tree in a school playground so there's no way to know what his origins really are.

Thank you Tielfan, very informative stuff as usual! I might have posted in the wrong section, maybe you can move it to Species & Mutations? Sorry about that :oops:



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So basically if we could get a green tiel we would get a blue one too!

Yep, you got that right. Also turquoise/aqua, because the pastelface gene removes only part of the yellow and creates a blue/green color. This type of effect is called a parblue mutation (partial blue), and there are some gorgeous parblue mutations in lovebirds and other species. But don't hold your breath because we aren't likely to get a green cockatiel without human tampering in their gene pool.

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Is i possible to obtain a paleface lutino? They must be absolutely stunning.

Yes, and this is the color that I want. There's a local breeder who occasionally gets pastelface lutino girls from his pairs, and if he has one this year I might buy it. Here's a picture of one from tieltreasures.com:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:31 am 
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That tiel is gorgeous. I would love love love a yellowcheek heavy pied. Like Garance's Solaire.



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