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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:37 pm 
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Oh, and Karo, what's the nutritional group called?


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It's called FeedingFeathers. https://www.facebook.com/groups/535489376462594/



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:06 pm 
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@tielfan you may want to check this out. it from another bird forum
http://theparrotforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16339


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I don't know which group they're talking about, but it's not this one. The parrot forum that you linked to is paranoid about protein in general and has a lot of wrong ideas about it. The article that they linked to in the thread had some wrong info in it too.

But currently a lot of avian vets are recommending no animal protein due to concerns about atherosclerosis. IMO this is overly conservative and more about "stupid owner syndrome" than any actual fear that even a small amount is dangerous. Small amounts are probably safe. But animal protein isn't required in the diet, and not feeding it is fine as long as the protein requirement is being met through other sources.

I have an article on protein which includes a discussion on whether animal protein is healthy or not: http://www.littlefeatheredbuddies.com/i ... otein.html



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:29 pm 
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it just the way he was typing, he has been booted from so many forums, I am surprised he is still there. the little that I read on that forum I wonder if anybody has any living brain cells some days.


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Don't you think eating for us or our birds
is common sense.....
Eat a little of ever thing......
Too much these days about should have,
and don't eat.....
Just my opinion.... :woohoo1:



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Veterinarians report that nutritional deficiencies are a major problem in pet birds, and it's frequently accompanied by obesity because they overeat in an attempt to get the nutrients that they're missing. So we really do need to pay enough attention to make sure our birds are getting the hard-to-obtain nutrients. A lot of birds don't get outside where they can make Vitamin D from sunshine, and if they're not eating pellets they're not likely to get it from their diet either. The form they need (D3) doesn't occur in plants so they're not going to get it from eating seeds and vegetables.

Getting enough protein from plants is tricky too, because the protein-to-calories ratio in seeds, grains and nuts isn't high enough and you need a significant percentage of beans/legumes in the mix to increase the amount of complete protein. Most of those beans need to be cooked too because of toxin problems in raw beans.

Most humans eat animal products so it's easier for us. Animal protein is a good source for some of the nutrients that are hard to find in plants, but there are potential problems with giving too much of it to a bird and we don't know what the safe limit is. So it's a complicated situation that can make the bird owner want to bang their head against a wall and scream.
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It's all one Heck of a problem to get it correct.....
Mine are all having mixed pulses once it's cool.....
all have had spoon fed juiced carrots.....Apple .....and a little
ginger....they seem to luv the stuff ...I'm going to juice the green
veggies see if they will eat them off the spoon....
What we do for our birds :confused1: :crying:



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:29 pm 
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the little PITB got another bird, Baby Red Crowned Parakeet, baby Kakariki. the bird is unweaned and little mr. is having to learn how to hand feed it. Poor bird :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:42 am 
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janey'sbird wrote:
the little PITB got another bird, Baby Red Crowned Parakeet, baby Kakariki. the bird is unweaned and little mr. is having to learn how to hand feed it. Poor bird :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:


Who is PitH.....Brandon?



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