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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:42 pm 
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I was using ZuPreem.
I am wondering if I can use cleaning supplies in the bathroom that contain chlorine. I have Clorox powder and normally the smell is not very bad (I keep the bathroom door closed)



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:25 pm 
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I've used Zupreem Embrace before and kept it for a lot longer than 30 days. But as I said before, I kept most of it in the freezer. If I was in your situation, I'd look at the formula and smell it and taste it to see if it looked like it was still OK. And if it seemed OK, I'd put most of it in the freezer and when I have babies to feed I'd keep a small amount in the fridge that would get used up within a week or two.

It's OK to use cleaning products with chlorine as long as the birds aren't in a place where they can smell it. Once the smell dissipates the area should be safe for birds again.



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:14 am 
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I was following their recommendations on the package about 30 days and donated formula I had left (almost a whole large package) to the bird store (which I regret now). I kept some in the fridge in the glass container.

Our cock is giving me hard time. Normally Cuddles, the hen, goes into the nest at about 8pm but he keeps sitting there with her, instead of getting out for his bed-time routine (he needs to eat at least). I am trying to get him out but the more I try, the more unusual he finds it, and acts just an opposite (owner is acting strange - something must be a threat). If I leave him alone, he finally gets out at about 9 and then, instead of going quickly to eat, he starts preening himself and the chicks (yes, I think he is a super preener) and fly around - anything but eating. I understand, he was in the box for a long time and needs a break, but I need a break too :)
The chicks and him normally set for bed soon after 10pm, which is pretty late. Sure, this schedule we all fell into during the holidays and winter break is all human's fault.



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:54 am 
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I am worried more about the eggs when talking about smells and vapors. I have read the vapors can be toxic and fatal. I can't smell any chlorine in the living room.
Do you know if "green" cleaning products with thymol are safe to use around birds? They are claimed to be safe around children and no rinsing needed.



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:55 am 
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Birds are more sensitive to smells and pollutants in the air than humans are, so safe for children does not necessarily mean safe for birds. But if you can't smell it in the area where the birds are, it should be safe. The birds themselves are probably more at risk from chemical smells than the eggs are. The eggshells are porous and oxygen and other things can pass through, but the egg shell would probably screen some of it out.



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:43 pm 
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I am trying to understand how long I should give my chicks High energy breeder food (Roudybush), as it says it can be used to post-weaning chicks. Does this mean 1-3 months after they weaned, right? The pearl girl is not begging for food anymore so everybody is weaned. I just add some on top of their seeds so they probably don't get a big amount of it.

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High Energy Breeder: Feed to breeding birds that are feeding chicks. Wean chicks onto this diet for the first 1-3 months post-weaning (3 months for the larger species, one month for the smaller species). High-Energy Breeder will provide these young birds with extra protein, calcium, and Vitamin D3 needed for the continued growth that occurs during that time. The higher energy will help put back the body weight lost in the weaning process. Mix 1/3 High-Energy Breeder to 2/3 Maintenance mixture for use in birds with a higher calcium need or are being introduced to Roudybush. Do not give additional vitamin or mineral supplements, such as cuttlebone, mineral blocks, or multivitamins. Fresh fruits and vegetables may be given as a minor part of the diet.



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:54 pm 
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I am trying to make a playstand/playground for my tiels. Have you seen any good ideas of a self-made playsets?



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:31 pm 
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Since they're not eating a lot of it, you could just feed it to them until it's gone.

Our main website has some ideas for building play gyms and toys: http://www.littlefeatheredbuddies.com/c ... /gyms.html



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:10 pm 
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thanks.
DO you think I should candle the eggs sometimes again? I won't be able to see if there are any problems and won't be able to help anyway.
I am going to feed High Energy Breeder Food to the parents if they have new chicks (this is what it's intended for). Is it OK to feed them seeds when the chicks are born? I know its not the best for the little ones, but the parents were getting seeds with the first clutch and everybody was OK.



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 Post subject: Re: Caring for new chicks and parent birds
PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:28 am 
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what do you personally feed your birds when the chicks are just born, Tielfan?
Why is bread toast always mentioned? is just bread (not toasted) OK? What is your opinion about ..... hm..... frozen (and then toasted) waffles? I am ashamed to say but my birds crave them like crazy if they get a hold of them. I know they are not the best food for them, but to tell honestly waffles were one of the so-called soft food that helped them to raise the first clutch (they were pretty picky about soft food and never ate a great variety of soft food)



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