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Post subject: Re: Letting Rio go  Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:05 am |
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tielfan wrote: Seeing a parrotlet once a week is a very different experience than having one in your flock all the time. A visiting bird isn't part of your flock and doesn't consider any part of your house to be his territory. He's basically the intruder in someone else's territory, so he's more likely to be on his good behavior and not cause problems. Different individuals have different personalities, so what you see with one bird might not be a good example of what the average member of that species is like. Actually my birds do he in his territory and hes friendly and were going to his house tomorrow for halloween.
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Post subject: Re: Letting Rio go  Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:48 am |
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tielfan wrote: Seeing a parrotlet once a week is a very different experience than having one in your flock all the time. A visiting bird isn't part of your flock and doesn't consider any part of your house to be his territory. He's basically the intruder in someone else's territory, so he's more likely to be on his good behavior and not cause problems. Different individuals have different personalities, so what you see with one bird might not be a good example of what the average member of that species is like. Thank you.... on the p'let comment..
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Post subject: Re: Letting Rio go  Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:54 am |
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ParrotWhisperer wrote: Jan wrote: I don't know how to answer your post really! Why didn't you stop and think, before adding another bird to your flock? How can you part with the bird... you wanted the bird, so you should find a way around the problem...not just pass the bird on! Parrotlets..... are aggressive birds.... your knowledge of them little.... I don't intend this post to upset anyone... but every bird owner should research and think well before adding to their flock... Excuse me I did research and Rio is not a parrotlet you seem to be always calling him a parrotlet and yes I do have experience with parrotlets and they werent aggressive at all and I never said I was passing him on I am gonna find away to make him less aggressive like what Carolyn suggested.And I know my knowledge of parrotlets is not little because my Aunt has one and I see it every Saturday and hes Rio's friend and by the way Rio is a lovebird. I was commenting on your quote about P'lets... not on Rio.. I know he is a love bird... I've had P'lets for years.. No! I'm not and expert.. but I'm sure my knowledge on them is better than yours. I'll say no more
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Post subject: Re: Letting Rio go  Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:22 pm |
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Dude, you did say this: Quote: I have yet to see a aggressive parrotlet any parrotlet that has been in my home was great with everybody and Wasabi my Aunts parrotlet is friends with Rio and Rio dosent hurt him. Parrotlets are VERY well known for aggression and so are lovebirds. All we're trying to say is that brief personal experience with a small number of individuals isn't a good indicator of what the whole species is like. Training was mentioned earlier, so I should probably mention that you can't train a bird out of following its natural instincts. You can train a bird to do things that it enjoys or at least doesn't object to. But you can't train it to not be afraid when something scary happens, to not do something that it really wants to do, to do something that it really hates, or to stop being aggressive if it's a naturally aggressive bird. Hormone control might work, but if it doesn't work then the opportunities to change the situation with training are going to be very limited.
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Post subject: Re: Letting Rio go  Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:01 pm |
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Are there no other rooms in the house you can put his cage? You may have to put the cage in a different area, according to what the trainer said. Or at least take him to another room when he starts acting up. Patty wrote: This is a common problem with people keeping multiple species. In the wild, birds do not like other species of birds in their nesting areas. The little birds are fearless when it comes to protecting their territory. The problem is that before he gets it under control, the lovebird may push one of the other bird far enough that he gets injured by them or worse. The solution is usually moving the bird in jeopardy or the one causing the problem out of the area. In this case that is the same bird. Sometimes time apart changes things, sometimes it doesn't. There is no "set in stone" solution for this problem, so I usually go with the safest counter-measure when giving advice I asked her if there is any way to teach him to accept them as flock members. I'll let you know what her answer is. And Carolyn, I have seen aggression problems fixed in birds, through training. However, those were "aggression towards the owner" situations, rather than aggression towards other birds.  You are right about the instincts though, so it might not be that easy, if possible.
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Post subject: Re: Letting Rio go  Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:23 pm |
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JessiMuse wrote: Are there no other rooms in the house you can put his cage? You may have to put the cage in a different area, according to what the trainer said. Or at least take him to another room when he starts acting up. Patty wrote: This is a common problem with people keeping multiple species. In the wild, birds do not like other species of birds in their nesting areas. The little birds are fearless when it comes to protecting their territory. The problem is that before he gets it under control, the lovebird may push one of the other bird far enough that he gets injured by them or worse. The solution is usually moving the bird in jeopardy or the one causing the problem out of the area. In this case that is the same bird. Sometimes time apart changes things, sometimes it doesn't. There is no "set in stone" solution for this problem, so I usually go with the safest counter-measure when giving advice I asked her if there is any way to teach him to accept them as flock members. I'll let you know what her answer is. And Carolyn, I have seen aggression problems fixed in birds, through training. However, those were "aggression towards the owner" situations, rather than aggression towards other birds.  You are right about the instincts though, so it might not be that easy, if possible. There are other rooms in my house but no room for his cage Tiko is in the kitchen and theres no room in the living room and I lock him in his cage if hes acting up or I bring him in the living room.
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