Haha lol she knows your right and shes wrong she just doesn't wanna lose.

Yeah. What makes me cringe is that he is still wanting to feed the gloop when Carolyn proved it was high in protein and pigtatine (whatever than name is spelled) said that its soooo bad (sarcasm in the soooo part).

There's not anything super bad about the gloop - it's better than an all seed diet after all. The protein levels in it are more likely to be deficient than excessive.

Well it's starting to look like they've got absolutely nothing to back up their assertions about the protein in seed. There's been a lot of long-winded speculation and nitpicking about stuff that's not particularly relevant, but no sources supporting their claims or reasoning based on actual nutritional data. Wolf seems like a decent guy but I'm getting tired of all the dancing around the issues from that other person.

First there wasn't a nutritional analysis for the gloop recipe because there wasn't enough money to get one, but then there was one after I pointed out the existence of free information. But no details were provided on the nutrient levels in the recipe and it was admitted that the nutritional analysis didn't meet their own goals. Interesting.

When you say "other person", do you mean Paj or Marie? I don't think Marie means any harm. If I remember correctly, she's admitted to not being an expert on nutrition. From what it seems, she might be trying to play peacekeeper, making neutral statements.

I don't think Paj is too used to someone countering her arguments with reliable evidence. I noticed it's taking her a little longer to reply now. Even when someone did properly counter her, she never did admit to being wrong, though the other person did have the last say (it was a debate on whether or not you can dehydrate foods and keep in the nutrients).

Though if you're tired of talking about seed protein, she did try to counter your evidence in the thread I made about soy. You can take a stab at that if you want. at least she agreed that the problem isn't unique to soy.

I laughed when she talked about Brandon.

Jessamine, is that the forum you mod at?

It's Paj of course, she's the one using an exceptional number of words to not answer the question. I haven't been back to the soy thread since I posted there and don't plan to return to it. It's tedious enough talking to her on just one thread. I'm going to call it off if there's one more post where she doesn't say something meaningful. If they won't say anything that justifies their own claims then I have to conclude that the claims are baseless, and yes that is what I will say although not necessarily in those words.

Regarding dehydration, the only preservation method that preserves more of the nutrients is flash freezing. You need an expensive commercial freezer to do that, so dehydration is the best method for people preserving food at home.

I freely admit it when I'm wrong about something, and in fact I already did it on the thread. Lots of people can see when you've failed, and not admitting it just makes you look worse.

Where was that **** talking about me

She's a weirdo lol talking about me she's lucky I cant say anything actually Carolyn give her this message I didn't take what tielfan said about protein just to say I actually think tielfan is right in all she saids and all the research she does and I do research myself a lot actually I love watching videos of parrots and reading and learn different stuff everyday from it and what I learn from forums is just extra learning and I dont believe everything I see on forums if I did my birds would be eating gloop instead of pellets lol.And dont ever talk about me when im not around and dont think for a second that getting me banned is gonna teach me anything because I did nothing wrong but give right information and now look at you struggling against Carolyn and now realise I was right.

Nah, that's not the one I mod at. The one I mod at isn't actually about birds. It's basically just a bunch of nerdy stuff.

I don't think it's a good idea to try and fight through Carolyn. Plus it's not like she said anything bad. She just made a guess that Carolyn knows you (and she was spot on). You can tell her all that once you're un-banned. It's only for a week, right? You might end up being banned for longer if you try to say anything to her through Carolyn, and Carolyn might get in trouble too. And, if she looks on this forum, I could get in trouble.