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Post subject: Re: Is this diet acceptable?  Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:49 pm |
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It's very likely that they'll do this lol. Birds tend to eat pellets better when they're served in a separate bowl, not mixed with seeds. Unfortunately this isn't a seed mix that I would buy. The first two ingredients (safflower and sunflower) are high-fat seeds. These are OK in small amounts but there's too much of them in this mix. The third ingredient is millet which is low fat, but IMO there's not enough of it in this mix. It looks like there are pumpkin seeds too although that's not on the ingredient list - maybe it's squash seed? This is OK but it's awkward for cockatiels to eat because of the size. I don't really see the rest of the ingredients so maybe they're in the pellets, but if there are little bits of dried fruit and whatnot in there it's likely that the cockatiels won't eat them. My birds just don't go for that sort of thing.
Here's a list of the ingredients: Safflower Seed, Sunflower Seed, White Millet, Heat Processed Soybeans, Wheat, Oat Groats, Whole Corn, Ground Corn, Feeding Oat Meal, Cantaloupe Seed, Green Split Peas, Yellow Split Peas, Banana Chips, Squash Seed, Watermelon Seed, Wheat Middlings, Peanuts, Dehydrated Papaya, Dehydrated Carrots, Soybean Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Alfalfa Flakes, Cabbage Flakes, Celery Flakes, Crushed Red Peppers, Dicalcium Phosphate, Soybean Oil, Wheat Germ Oil, Mineral Oil, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, DL-Methionine, Magnesium Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Ferrous Carbonate, Zinc Oxide, Choline Chloride, dl-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate (source of vitamin E), Vitamin A Palmitate, Beta Carotene, Niacin, Copper Sulfate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of vitamin K activity), Riboflavin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Mixed Tocopherols (preservative), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Biotin, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Corn Oil, Potassium Iodide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Color Add (Red 40, Yellow 5, Yellow 6, Blue 1).
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Post subject: Re: Is this diet acceptable?  Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:00 pm |
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A good way to improve this mix would be to get a basic parakeet seed mix of millet, canary grass seed and oats, and mix it with this one. That way the proportion of high fat seeds will be less and the proportion of low fat seeds will be more. You can pay attention to which items the birds eat and which items they don't eat to help you decide whether it's worthwhile to buy this brand again in the future or if you should go with something else.
Most seed mixes have a lot of stuff in it that my birds won't eat, and I started making my own seed mix because I was tired of throwing so much outside for the wild birds. I get a basic parakeet mix and add a few things to it that I know my birds will eat, usually sunflower, safflower, hemp seed and buckwheat. I get to choose the proportions so there's not a lot of the high fat seeds.
They also get several brands of pellets which I mix together in a separate bowl, not mixed with the seeds. When they pick and choose from this bowl they're picking one kind of pellet over another, not picking pellets over seeds. You don't have to go that far of course with just two cockatiels, but if they won't eat the pellets in the seed mix you should try serving the pellets separately. I don't know whether Coco has a favorite brand, but Zupreem Natural is the favorite pellet in my flock so he probably likes that. Zupreem Fruitblend is their second choice.
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Post subject: Re: Is this diet acceptable?  Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:06 pm |
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tielfan wrote: A good way to improve this mix would be to get a basic parakeet seed mix of millet, canary grass seed and oats, and mix it with this one. That way the proportion of high fat seeds will be less and the proportion of low fat seeds will be more. You can pay attention to which items the birds eat and which items they don't eat to help you decide whether it's worthwhile to buy this brand again in the future or if you should go with something else.
Most seed mixes have a lot of stuff in it that my birds won't eat, and I started making my own seed mix because I was tired of throwing so much outside for the wild birds. I get a basic parakeet mix and add a few things to it that I know my birds will eat, usually sunflower, safflower, hemp seed and buckwheat. I get to choose the proportions so there's not a lot of the high fat seeds.
They also get several brands of pellets which I mix together in a separate bowl, not mixed with the seeds. When they pick and choose from this bowl they're picking one kind of pellet over another, not picking pellets over seeds. You don't have to go that far of course with just two cockatiels, but if they won't eat the pellets in the seed mix you should try serving the pellets separately. I don't know whether Coco has a favorite brand, but Zupreem Natural is the favorite pellet in my flock so he probably likes that. Zupreem Fruitblend is their second choice. Where do you get the sunflower, safflower, hemp seed and buckwheat? Can you get them individually at pet stores? I would really like to do this with the parakeet food. I too feed the wild birds a lot :/
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Post subject: Re: Is this diet acceptable?  Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:47 pm |
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So, i hung some cilantro up on the cage, but the birds wont get near it, i even tried giving it to them with my hand, but they showed no interest.  Oh, and also, i put Coco and Pip on a guava/myrtle tree, and Coco started eating the leaves. Is that Okay? PS: Ignore the round cage; my dad and I are going to make a huge cage later in the next month!
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