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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:10 pm 
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That's great advise!
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and the classes probably won't be needed for your future career either.

My school said that if I don't pass one class, I won't get my diploma which frustrated me a lot

What do you think I should tell my psychologist tomorrow? I feel like I ready solved the problem, but I also feel like I have to get it out of my heart once and for all!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:09 pm 
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I agree. Say what you think you need to say. You already know that the psychologist will tell your parents if you mention the suicidal thoughts. So if you tell that part, you should also say that since then you've been thinking and feel like you've solved the problem.

That way your parents won't feel so alarmed when the psychologist reports to them. It also opens the door to a discussion with them about strategies for getting through the rest of this school year, if you would like to do that.

If you fail one class you won't be able to get a diploma from that particular school. But you don't want to go to that school anyway, and there are a lot of other schools that will give you a diploma. Have you learned about Machiavelli yet? A Machiavellian approach to getting out of that school would be to intentionally fail a class so you couldn't graduate and there wouldn't be any point in going there any more. I don't actually recommend that approach. But I think it's a reasonable plan to slack off a little on the less important classes if you don't have the resources to go full blast on every single class.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:32 pm 
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Baruch, I am late here in the sense that you are already gone to sleep so you won't be reading this now. It's nothing important, I just wanted to add one thing about the meeting you will have with the psychologist in a few hours.

If you don't want to tell him about your suicide thoughts because he will have to tell your parents, without lying you can just rephrase it in a way so that he won't have to report it.
You might say that your life is so miserable at the moment, that everything seems meaningless. It's just an example, but there are ways to convey your feelings of utter desperation without actually SAYING the word "suicide".

I wish we had psychologists in school when I was a student, it's a great opportunity you have to speak with someone who can give you a lot of help in understanding yourself a little bit more and quicker. And as others have already said, he can be an excellent mediator. He might be the right person to speak to your mother and make her see the bigger picture. She wants you to be happy, she just needs to understand what happiness means for you. This guy can help on this, I am sure. Use him as much as you can!

Don't think in terms of failure, please. Your school's program is brutal! Success in life is not measured in school results anyway.
I was a bad student, lots of problems with authority, not interested in most of the subjects etc. etc. nevertheless a few years later I had a great career with a job I adored. Millions of other people can tell you this same tale.

And one more thing, the most important of all, of course: you must think of MY happiness! :D :D :D
I always look forward to read your posts and your new crazy breeding plans, you are a very interesting person and I enjoy living on this planet knowing that you are around, and probably one day you will create The Green Tiel! Sorry but you'll have to stay :)



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:43 pm 
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If he goes into genetics as a career he actually might create the green cockatiel. Because genetic modification is probably the only way we're going to get one.



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Thank you both! I'll take your advise Barbra :D


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:34 pm 
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I’ve talked before about learning how to make observations and analyze situations to gain an understanding of what’s going on. So I’m going to take a stab at some analysis, and you can see whether it sounds right or not.

I get the impression that you’re a perfectionist. I know how perfectionists work because I’m one myself and so is my son. When perfectionists aren’t confident about what they’re doing, they like to go slow and pay careful attention to make sure they’re doing it right. It bothers them a lot if they have to hurry up and do something they haven’t completely mastered because they’re likely to make mistakes. But this school is throwing stuff at you so fast that you don’t have time to go at your own pace, and there’s a huge conflict between your desire to do it right and the need to get it done fast.

I’m also going to guess that you aren’t completely happy with the grades you’re getting, because you probably wouldn’t feel so stressed if you felt like you were at least getting good results from all your hard work. Part of this is due to time constraints and excessive pressure, but part of it might also be due to not knowing exactly what the teachers are looking for. It’s hard for a perfectionist to get it right if they're not sure what's expected.

One technique for clarifying the expectations would be to go to the teacher when you’re not thrilled with the grade on a particular assignment or test, and ask them what you could have done to get a better grade. This will give you a better idea of what they’re looking for, and you'll become more skilled at delivering what the teacher wants. But even before you go to the teacher, you can ask yourself the same question to see whether you can identify any weaknesses by yourself. This will help develop your own analytical skills.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:43 pm 
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WOW! Your post is shockingly true! The perfectionist part probably because of my OCD.
Thank you for the advise, I'm taking them all!


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It's funny, you mentioned the OCD before but it never crossed my mind when I was writing the post. But OCD is pretty much a type of perfectionism taken to extremes.

I was just going by the way you worried about the whole situation in general. If you didn't care about doing things well you wouldn't be so stressed. I wonder how many kids at that school manage to cope with it because they don't really care how well they do. I bet the number of kids who actually like the school is pretty close to zero, just because of the extra-long days if nothing else. But if they're just putting in their time and not really interested in how good their grades are, they won't be as stressed as you.

If you think about the situation you might be able to identify some other contributing factors. Everybody has their strengths and weaknesses, and it's good to understand what kind of conditions work best for you. There are a lot of jobs in the world where perfectionists are preferred over people who will do a fast but sloppy job so they can say it's finished. Sometimes perfectionists are slower in the beginning, but once they've mastered the skill they can be both fast and accurate.



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Nobody likes the school that school! Their parents make them go, but my cousins which are a day apart from me are also switching next year, but not such a high chance like me

Today my mom dropped me to school and we were talking about her collage and then she told me that if you want to become something big then you need to get good grades in school, then I explained to her about the 5 extra hard subjects that I'm taking which is frustrating me because if I fail one of them I won't get my diploma. My mom then replied that next year I have the full decision of what school I'm going to next year.

Also, for some reason my psychologist didn't come on Tuesday. I'm guessing that he was sick but he'll probably come next week :)


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